Quotes, Hopes And Apologies

just amazing

@skyboy416 ty kindly 😊

@Burrfoot no probs i really liked it

Well said, I applaud you 👏👏👏😘

Beautifully said! Blunt, yet friendly- its a love! I love it 💙💜💚❤💛

Thanks @sjw .. Watching kids interact with each other on here and seeing their obvious enjoyment while sharing words is a beautiful thing! Starting blocks for a bright future IMO and every bit as legitimate as anything I've posted.. The other thing that had been on my mind was similar to the glorifying self harm thing.. IE what if something with mental health issues (can't find a better way to put it) of whatever degree reads my comments and takes them to heart?! I don't know the road they walk or the problems they have so have decided to be a lot more selective in the comments I make and who I make them to

@insomnium thanks belle.. 'blunt but friendly' I love that!! 😃😂 will make it my new bio

Yes that makes a lot of sense, and like you say it's lovely seeing new writers join and their work grow I think encouragement as a lot to do with that...I always try and keep that quote in my head "don't judge me until you've walked a mile in my shoes" like you say we don't know what anyone's situation is I've read some harrowing true life posts on here 😓 and in my mind you never know how close someone is to the edge 😘

@Burrfoot 😂😂😂 glad I got a good line that describe you! Just like this poem

@sjw absolfreakinlutely and any kid who is on a writing/reading app has already demonstrated they have something that sets them apart from the herd!

Yep and we need to encourage that individuality, I hope this gets RP lots it's a lovely encouragement and you deserve some beers 🍻🍻🍻😘

@sjw hmmm beers 😃

Great piece of writing. I enjoyed it so much.

Thanks @Pawsy I appreciate that 👍😊

Live and let live eh mate? 👏👏 Cracking write sir, I'm with you, although there will always be stuff I won't be able to keep quiet about 😂😂 Well said mate 👍🍻

That was a ☕☕☕ 3 cup piece wasn't it? 😂👍

@leelee101 been on my mind for a while and sat unfinished in notes.. Lol I'll still be speaking my mind apart things that are important 😉 but maybe in different ways

'about' not 'apart'

@Burrfoot meh, I'm not even going to start 😜

@Irrational_Kimmi please do 😂

@Burrfoot haha it's probably not for the best. 😂 I still don't think all this quoting business is great tbh and a lot of the kids have been quite vile and rude. Not all, of course. But when I check the main feed and there is ten quotes in a row from one person I just think why? It takes no talent or effort to copy and paste. Sure, every now and again, share a pertinent quote. Even better, write a commentary on it and why you like it. I dunno, I supposed I'm just disappointed that this place seems to be becoming another twitter. Oh well, it seems I'm in the minority and I'll just have to embrace it or ship out 😜

I've never had a problem with quotes.. They are built into the Opuss structure, if kids want to express themselves that way and take the time to read and share their feelings via words with each other, I think 'why not?' By assimilating the words of others they begin to think of their meaning and by encouragement they experiment with finding a voice of their own. I learned to draw by copying comics, I learned to write by reading books. I like that a subgroup of young kids are using Opuss as an outlet to express themselves and find like minded people, often they may not have the opportunity in their real lives. I've said it many times, this place is big enough for all, and rightly should provide the opportunity for all to express themselves. Just because one group likes to share quotes does not diminish another group's preference for original pieces and vice versa. I watch my daughter and remember me at that age and recognise the questioning that often goes on in the quotes and other one liners that appear. These kids are finding who they are and who are we to put them down for that? Opuss doesn't belong to any one type of poster and is enjoyed by many people on many levels. I think about the time and effort and thought process taken by a kid to choose a quote to copy and paste, or to eliminate a quote from the choices and it makes me happy as it shows a love or words and their power.

@Burrfoot I really like this write! It's all a tricky subject!! But I really see ourselves as the forefathers of change! All the kids on here look up to us! So we all have to set an example...but your right they're already leagues above the rest! 👍👍😜👏

As for being rude or vile, that's never been limited to age on Opuss

@Irrational_Kimmi 👆

@Burrfoot well I'm just going to agree to disagree with you. Some quotes, yes, are chosen with care and I think that's fine. It's just the few who think they will gain popularity and post over and over with anything in order to rise up the ranks. It's pointless. Enough, I'm not going to go on about it any more.

@HingAling24 👏👏👍 completely agree that there's loads of talent here to nurture, while other kids are playing computer games, Opuss minors are reading, writing and broadening their mind!

@Irrational_Kimmi even the ones that do it for rank have to take the time to choose words.. And if we don't care about rank, why worry if they do?

@Burrfoot I disagree. I think they just pick any old thing they've seen do well elsewhere. It's dressed up spam in my mind. Because it blocks other writers who do take time and effort from having their pieces seen, not be because of rank. Because there is only so much shit people I'll wade through to find a gem. And I see a lot of these posts with zero likes, so it's not just me who thinks they are worthless.

Where they pick it from is irrelevant, they are using words to be popular, anything that attracts kids to reading and writing is a good thing in my book and even that is a very small sample of the kids using Opuss or quotes. For those that don't want to spend the half second it takes to scroll past the quotes, there's the personal feed but that's down to reader's choice, not poster's. The very fact many get zero likes would suggest the poster has more than just popularity as a motive

@Irrational_Kimmi keep forgetting to tag 👆

@Irrational_Kimmi yeah you're right! Some people just want to climb those ranks for no reason other than to climb the ranks lol!!! But in all honesty it will all pan out, the people on here to abuse Opuss will eventually see its pointless! We just have to patrol the feeds and give guidance 👍👍😘

In the same vain I've posted a fair few quotes! Some I've written myself but mostly by others...but they are the ones I truly thought had meaning so I guess your all correct in some ways

@Burrfoot meh I could argue with you about this all day but we clearly aren't going to agree. I don't think reporting a quote attracts them to writing, just riding the back of another persons success. And again, no, it's popularity. If you read their posts it's often whining about wanting to be a high rank etc. like I said, I could argue all day but I have better things to do. I'm off to watch a Led Zeppelin tribute band later 😁

@Irrational_Kimmi you're right I can't agree with that. I find it a jaundiced view on childhood, there's far worse ways for teenagers to seek popularity than posting quotes on a writing app. It feels like an elitist view IMHO

@Burrfoot well you're entitled to your opinion but if you're going to start insulting me personally then I'm not willing to talk any more.

@HingAling24 I never look at ranks or top of the wotsits but if it is an incentive for kids to seek out writing then at least some good has come of it

@Burrfoot hmmmm I guess so! We only have to put up with extra thumb activity haha Now kiss an make up you two! &can I watch? 😝👍😘😜

@Irrational_Kimmi I'm not intending to insult you personally, I'm just stating that by you insulting quote posters I feel it comes across as elitist.. But now that you've deleted all your comments no one can see those views

@Burrfoot for some reason I thought you were a gal! Oooops I don't wanna watch! Haha just looked at ya image and clearly I was wrong!! 😱😁😉

Mind you I think my answers were direct responses so the dots are there to be joined

@Burrfoot I deleted them because you said I was being elitist and I didn't want to upset anyone else who has decided to u-turn on their opinions to please the masses.

@Irrational_Kimmi I did not call you elitist, I said the views you were expressing felt elitist. As for u-turn, I have repeatedly said quotes are part of Opuss and rightly so.. What this piece is about is my realisation that my snarky comments on other ppls posts can be misconstrued and because I don't know their issues I will think more before commenting on them lol and I'm fairly confident I can't be accused of trying to 'please the masses' 😂😂😂

@HingAling24 😂 I might just have female facial hair issues

I really like this piece, although it is kind of a tricky subject. There are some kids on here that post almost 100% quotes, which is alright, but it might be beneficial to suggest they try writing something of their own. That being said, being a part of Opuss' younger crowd, I really appreciate this 😄

@natalee I agree, encouragement and nurturing is much better till they find their voice

Yeah exactly, because then they can express themselves in a more creative way, and we can all enjoy reading it more 😊

I am feeling quite emotional at the moment, that's my only excuse for saying that this post reduced me to tears. I am obviously turning into one of those silly old women who used to irritate me so much. By the way, I love it, well done! 😄😽

@crowncottage thanks and don't.. You'll get me started!! Give me a big hug ya softie 💪💪

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@Burrfoot I have posted a more calm and coherent discussion on the matter. Perhaps I can express myself in a more adult manner. I'm sorry if I offended you, it was not my intention.

Oh I think you ARE going soft a bit Burr... 😂😂😘

@Irrational_Kimmi 😂 i don't do offended 😉

@Klaire maybe a little 😉

@crowncottage your gonna hate my life poetry when it's finished then :(

The majority of those who do copy and paste usually have no idea of the meaning of what they have posted. I've commented time and time again on those posts where I have suspected this and have always been proven correct. The user normally gets all defensive and aggressive despite the completely harmless questioning. When they are not being defensive and aggressive they would spout out some nonsense that has nothing to do at all with the quote or the subject matter it was intended to describe and will not at all acknowledge my attempts at educating them on the subject. I guess as it will ruin THERE post somehow. My theory is that they simply post something they have seen on Facebook or twitter based on its number of likes and retweets or number of favourites and have assumed that if it works on those platforms it must by default work here. Yes, there are those who understand what they have posted but still post, again I assume, just because why not. There is no thought behind it at all. I have copied and pasted before but I alway engage those who take time to comment and we will discuss it... usually to the point where I am accused of being a bully or a jerk but that's just people fearing failure or not liking being wrong. In a nutshell, offence is taken not given. Snarky comments or not I will continue to comment. Why keep quite?. Opinions are a good thing are they not?.

@HingAling24 I will look out for it, perhaps I will feel differently by then, who knows? 😉

@blindsilence I agree with you to an extent and that was the reason why I also commented on many posts.. However what I realised recently was that a lot of the posters are either too young to understand the quote or our comments properly or have other issues that become apparent. I thought long and hard about it and asked myself how my daughter who loves reading would interact on here. While she wouldn't be rude, and would use her own stuff frequently, she would also use phrases she has read without fully understanding them. These are children, for whatever reason coming onto an app that is completely about words and that is the positive I have chosen to take from it. The more they read the more they understand. As for those that should know better, well I guess fair enough, but even if these quotes are only fleetingly going through their subconscious before posting, there is an accumulative effect.

My change of heart only applies to children @blindsilence

I am by no means saying that they shouldn't post what they want, after all I post the most ridiculous stuff imaginable from time to time, some comment and a lot more probably ignore my posts. I am all for children using the app. I don't see how engaging them on what they write is a bad thing. Someone said earlier in the conversation, I think, they are writing for their audience and we are obviously not in that category, but at the same time we are reading what they write and it is only fair that we offer critique on what they write. To ignore it surely encourages more of the same?. I understand what you are getting at in that it is how we address their posts that can be confusing for them. You are right. I certainly will be more considerate going forward.

@blindsilence I get you, but when my daughter has friends round, I don't interrupt their conversations with adult perspectives. Sometimes it's valuable and appreciated, other times they just want to mix with other kids.

Agreed.

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👏👏 I found myself wondering that too, when seeing quotes instead of being annoyed I really thought about that that quote could really mean something to them, although that's not always true but like mentioned above at least kids are trying to get involved in writing/reading& joining Opuss shows that, no matter what they post😊This piece really spoke to me💙👏👏👏

I can understand some of the reasons you may have written this piece. I have never had a problem with quotes/sharing of others poetry etc, its the lack of credit to author or passing stuff off as your own that really p***es me off - have I ever mentioned that?😂😂😂 I know as a child I read pieces of work that inspired massively at the time, & I often wanted to share with others in the hope that they'd feel the same. Of course, there'll always be the few that post for no other reason than to gain followers/likes etc, but no doing they're the ones who'll get bored of it all v.quickly too. I shall wait with anticipation to see the new Burrfoot in action! 😌😘

*for 'no doing' read 'no doubt' 😖

@Fly10 I had thought it would be a quieter Burr.. But so far I've still had plenty to keep me occupied 😂 yeah, although this post mentions quotes, I only included it as I felt it part of the bigger picture. I've never had any problem with quotes, and frequently say there's room for all, that part of the post was more about the feeling they tend to create and how I feel about it (does that make sense?.. Can't scroll back to see what I've said!).. Personally, it's about the way I became willing to add a flippant comment on posts about things I either thought were silly or just plain wrong.. Without taking into consideration age or other issues .. We'll see how long it lasts 😉

Cheers @tetti2

I'm glad it did @ashhkat 👍😊

@Burrfoot please don't bring this subject up again as all the wittering is filling up our main frame and stopping the punters putting on other people's quotes/writings etc thanks Opus Operations Manager

@beergrylles 😂 I think they're used to me talking shit by now 😉